Topic: Court date for the guy who hit Bluesman: May 31 2017  (Read 721 times)

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« on: May 28, 2017, 12:15:04 PM »
The court date for Joel Harris Slaton, the hit and run driver who killed Bluesman, is Wednesday, May 31, at 9 AM in the civil court building at 251 S. Lawrence St., Montgomery. If there is any way you can come and support Charlotte, Bluesman's widow, please do. I would like to see us pack that courtroom. I would like to see Joel Harris Slaton spend some serious time behind bars.




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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 01:04:45 PM »
May he get the death penalty.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 08:51:52 AM »
FYI, this is his sentencing date. An important time for anyone to show support if you are so inclined. I k ow a couple folks who are going. If you're interested, post here or PM me or Kris.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 09:31:54 AM »
FYI, this is his sentencing date. An important time for anyone to show support if you are so inclined. I k ow a couple folks who are going. If you're interested, post here or PM me or Kris.

Ugh...I'd go if I were off work.  Anyone making the trip, THANK YOU...and be careful.

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 08:45:40 PM »
Would love to see this gutless coward get a sentence equal in scope to the overwhelming tragedy he dealt Bluesman and his family, and then RAN from! >:(

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2017, 10:57:36 AM »
Arrgghh...I was out of town and off the computer until this morning  >:(

So I did not see this notice until after the event.  Please update when possible.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 10:12:46 AM »
The Honorable Johnny  Hardwick, Presiding Judge of the 15th Judicial Circuit Court, saw fit to put Joel Harris Slaton in the Alabama Correctional System for ten years today. 

Sitting through the morning of junior thug cases was absolutely the most entertaining and enlightening thing I have ever witnessed.  Then there was a break, then it was our turn.  First, the judge asked Joel what he had to say.  He told how he was doing so much to turn his life around, not mentioning the two stints in rehab he's had.  He talked about how he is a veteran with PTSD, but didn't elaborate on how he got it.  He did say he was on two medications for that condition.  He said he just blanked out when he left the scene of the accident and went to his mother's house to hide.

I'll be glad to write down the entire conversation if you guys want to hear how a master judge lets a defendant hang himself.  After asking him if that was all he had to say, twice, Judge Hardwick fixed him with a laser beam gaze and asked, "It's all about you, isn't it?"

I knew right then that things were going to go our way.
He let Charlotte speak as long as she wanted, then their son spoke, then he let Matt, Larry, and I speak.  He listed intently and with absolute respect to what we had to say. 

He was outraged that Joel Slaton was only there for leaving the scene, and not for killing Dave. 

Joel Harris Slaton was sentenced to ten years in the Alabama Correctional System.  We all counted it as a victory.

Joel, in the yellow shirt



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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 11:50:42 AM »
Why was he only charged with leaving the scene?  Is that the same as "hit and run?"  Is there a reason it was not vehicular manslaughter?

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2017, 11:57:45 AM »
Why was he only charged with leaving the scene?  Is that the same as "hit and run?"  Is there a reason it was not vehicular manslaughter?

That is what the judge couldn't believe.  I don't know.  I did hear someone say that this was his criminal trial, and he could now have a civil trial.  I'm not sure what that means. 

I do think that leaving the scene means the same as hit and run.  So maybe he can still be charged with manslaughter.  Do we have any lawyers here that can weigh in? 
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2017, 12:02:09 PM »
It could be that he pled guilty to leaving the scene to avoid prosecution for vehicular manslaughter.

I'm not a lawyer but I do watch Law&Order lmao
A civil trial could be suing him for financial compensation for Davids lost wages in support of his family. I forget what it's called.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2017, 02:50:06 PM »
A guess, and it is truly a WAG.... if The State charged him with Vehicular Manslaughter then this is what would be dealt with:

(a) A person commits the crime of criminally negligent homicide if he or she causes the death of another person by criminal negligence.
(b) The jury may consider statutes and ordinances regulating the actor's conduct in determining whether the actor is culpably negligent under subsection (a).
(c) Criminally negligent homicide is a Class A misdemeanor, except in cases in which the criminally negligent homicide is caused by the driver or operator of a vehicle or vessel who is driving or operating the vehicle or vessel in violation of Section 32-5A-191 or 32-5A-191.3;  in these cases, criminally negligent homicide is a Class C felony
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Meaning The State would have to PROVE negligence. That might be a tough row to hoe (I do not know the particulars of the case). I think it is fairly common for The State to charge a lesser crime where a conviction is more likely (i.e. the burden of proof is more easily met).

So what about Leaving the Scene in Alabama?

"Leaving the scene of an accident where an individual was either injured or died is considered to be a Class C felony. In the state of Alabama a Class C felony conviction can put you in prison for up to 10 years and require you to pay a $15,000 fine."

So maybe the Prosecutor looked at the facts and thought CNH might be tough to prove, meaning there was a good chance the accused would walk. So, the decision was made to go with Leaving The Scene which offered a much greater chance of conviction.

As I said, it's a guess. But I'm thinking a pretty reasonable guess.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2017, 02:53:57 PM »
Chitza: It's called "Compensatory Damages".  And, if awarded, are the result of a civil proceeding.

DEFINITION of 'Compensatory Damages': Money awarded to a plaintiff to compensate for damages, injury, or another incurred loss. Compensatory damages are awarded in civil court cases where loss has occurred as a result of the negligence or unlawful conduct of another party.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2017, 02:58:09 PM »
I think you have a good supposition there, Brian. He left the scene and was drunk when they picked him up. Charging him with CNH due to DUI would be difficult to prove as he could have started drinking after he left the scene. There was a chance he could walk. Looks like he got the max for felony leaving the scene.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2017, 02:59:29 PM »
I think Brian's guess is spot on.

Was this a plea deal or was he found guilty in a trial?

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2017, 03:33:05 PM »
He pled guilty.
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